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Marklin Boxes: Stamps, Labels, and Patterns (Part II)

In the previous post on Marklin boxes (Part I), I discussed my theory on the patterns of the stamps and print codes using only a small selection of some 1945 boxes.  Now I will move on to discuss the print code theory on a much larger sampling of boxes and test the validity of this theory.

To test the accuracy, we can begin with one of the earliest examples of Marklin HO scale by examining the box of a 1936 SLR 700 locomotive:

Marklin SLR 700 - 1936

Marklin SLR 700 - 1936

Here we can see two markings on the box other than the typical 1930s orange and black label from Marklin depicting an “SLR 700” locomotive.  The first, a stamp of “64” and secondly, a stamp “AA.”  Following the stamp sequence described in Part I, we can deduce the “64” as meaning the 4th quarter of 1936.  Given production dates of 1936 – 1939 for the SLR 700 locomotive, the two dates provide a strong correlation and we can tell that this box belongs to a Version 1 SLR 700 locomotive and not surprisingly, it does.  As to what the “AA” means, I have not a clue.  I can only guess that there is a correlation between the “AA” and the fact that I have only seen this on the earlier boxes from 1935 – 1937.  Perhaps an indication of the earliest HO production materials?  In the past we have seen “A” marked on transformers as being for the USA (American) markets, but here I do not believe it is the case.

An R 700 box demonstrating similar date correlation:

R 700 Box

R 700 Box- 1936

For some of the later years (1950s), one might ask if this same dating procedure still applies.  The answer is yes and no (because I don’t know).  As Marklin became more advanced and printing could be done with more than just a stamp, the print sequences and codes became much more complex.   However, I must note a particularly obscure example of a box from “FEB 1951” (picture below) that clearly spells out the production date. Unfortunately this is not the case for all 1950s materials.

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Feb 1951 Box

However I was given an incredible opportunity to investigate the 1950s dating codes with a mint example with original box, instruction sheet, and receipt.  From these three pieces of information, I was able to gather some very useful information.  Using catalog/instruction sheet dating techniques expressed in a previous article, I was able to decipher the instruction booklet, “CM 800 – 100/3  OON 02 56 k.”   Of course, in this article we are only concerned with “02 56” as it means February 1956.  Instruction booklet:

CE 800 Instruction sheet "02 56"

CE 800 Instruction sheet "02 56"

The corresponding box with which the original locomotive was sold (including above instruction sheet) has the stamp “8 2 6.”  From the information gathered above, we can determine that the “2” corresponds to “February” and “6” to “1956.”  Now we have related our catalog/instruction sheet print codes to the codes used on the boxes.

CE 800 BOX

CE 800 BOX - STAMP: "8 2 6"

For some further support to the theory, we can look at the original receipt included with the purchase of the above CE 800.

CE 800 Reciept

CE 800 Receipt

The receipt is dated “DEC 16 60”  which, although 4 years after our proposed production date of 1956, fits in perfect with all of our previous dating (at least the locomotive wasn’t made AFTER it was sold!).  This isn’t the first time I have seen old Marklin stock being sold years later at American hobby dealers. (The CE 800 cost $14.95 does this tell us anything further?)

1946 (4th q) of 354

1946 (4th q) of 354

1946 (4th q) of 351 - notice red pattern on box

1946 (4th q) of 351 - notice red pattern on box

Some more examples to prove my theory:

Notice that all dates on the boxes correspond to appropriate production dates of the locomotives.  Images courtesy of Markus K.

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HS 800 Box "87"

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Box "79"

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HS 800 Box "18"

What else could we possibly want to learn from the boxes?  Well I sure would like to know what the “T,” “O,” and “N” represent?  This certainly reminds me of TOYMARKLIN, but could we possibly use that here? But newer models have letters that do not fit the TOYMARKLIN letter pattern.  I think I am even closer to finding out the never-before-released estimated production numbers of Marklin locomotives (a big Marklin secret).  Wait for Part III!

Marklin Boxes: Stamps, Labels, and Patterns (Part I)

The Marklin boxes changed frequently over the years, from being wooden crates in the early 1900s to the boxes of the 1960s with colorful graphic drawings and cardboard inserts.  The boxes of the 1940s – 1950s, however, are the most interesting because the effects of the war often changed production runs and the materials available.  Here we examine the box of a 342 passenger car from the year 1945:

Marklin 342 Box 1945
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The particularly interesting fact about this box is that it was used for what seems to be three different purposes.  Not only can we see that there are (or were) three labels on the box, but also that there are three different stampings on the box.  The first and earliest stamp being “21″ (first quarter of 1942), the second stamp “24″ (fourth quarter of 1942) and finally “53″ (third quarter of 1945).  The labels also fit this strange array of production dates: the earliest label wraps around the box and is much lighter in color: common characteristics of earlier labels in the 1940s.  So why does this box have so many stamps and labels? The reason has to do with the state of the Marklin factory during the Second World War.  Perhaps first produced in 1942, this 342 was never shipped out to a dealer and it was therefore held in Marklin inventory.  During the period from 1942 – 1945, Marklin sold very little and was seemingly dormant.  When 1945 came around, Marklin was allowed to sell again to American and allied soldiers.  All the materials they had were old boxes from 1942, so they had to rip the labels off, re-label all the boxes, and stamp the boxes with the appropriate year and quarter.  This is the same with many boxes from this period and it is common to see whole sets (341, 342, 343, and 344) with these characteristics.

Marklin HR 66 12920 Locomotive in OBX

Incredible 1930s Marklin HR 66 12920 locomotive in very good condition with original box, “HR 66 12920, 20 Volt.” The locomotive’s condition and paint is 100% original with no replica or reproduction parts. The paint is in excellent condition with only minor chips and fading, but most importantly, there is no crazing. There is one spot of missing paint on the top of the locomotive in the center, very small chips in the streamline red line but most of the paint is still present. Also small chips where the wheels (front and rear trucks) hit the frame of the locomotive, however, this is very hard to prevent. It has been tested and does run very well and the lights are both functioning. The “20 V” sheet metal sign on the side of the cab of the locomotive is missing one of the tabs and therefore has trouble hanging on but can be easily fixed. Original box has factory wrapping and straw padding. Oiling instruction sheet included.

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Marklin ST 800 R OBX Version 2

Märklin ST 800 R in OBX with a later instruction sheet (“AN 1151 r”). This locomotive is in very good condition considering it often suffers zincpest and metal fatigue. This locomotive and two car set is in original box, includes factory corrugated wrapping and wax paper. I was told this locomotive sat in its box for many years and was rarely run. When it was first test-run, it functioned very well, with some oil added, it is now a very good runner.  Original dealer in Germany stamped on inside of top box cover as well as 125- DM handwritten on label and box. Box labeled “ST 800 R.” Box is in good condition with slight warping over the years and additional tape on underside. Looks like 1940s medical tape, probably from when it was shipped over from Europe to USA. Excellent very rare item. I think this locomotive is either version 1 or 2. No repainting, all parts original. Please see pictures for further information and condition.

 

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